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ANZ 2020 Annual General Meeting – Chief Executive Officer Address and

Presentation


Attached is the Chief Executive Officer’s address and presentation, which will be

delivered at ANZ’s 2020 Annual General Meeting. It has been approved for distribution

by ANZ’s Continuous Disclosure Committee.


Yours faithfully





Simon Pordage

Company Secretary

Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited

CEO ADDRESS
2020 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

16 December 2020

Melbourne


Thank you Paul and good morning.


I’d also like to extend my welcome to you today and acknowledge the

Wurundjeri and Boon Wurrung Peoples as the traditional owners of the land from

which we are broadcasting this morning.


As Paul mentioned, the thoughts of all our people are with those who have

suffered either from the bushfires that began the year or the pandemic that

defined it .


I know at ANZ we have had many staff impacted by both events and the team

here has rallied around colleagues and families impacted.


Tragically one of our international colleagues recently passed away after

contracting COVID in their local community. We are doing everything we can to

support their family and loved ones.


This only highlights the devastating impacts that will be with us for some time.


It’s also why our purpose - to shape a world where people and communities

thrive - has never been more important.


In fact, it was our purpose that guided the way we worked with customers in

need.


When the bushfires struck, we provided much needed assistance to our

customers as well as volunteer fire services and community organisations.


And as the effects of COVID restrictions became clear, we moved quickly to

provide those impacted with loan repayment deferrals.


This was aided by the massive levels of financial support provided by

governments as well as industry and regulators working closely together.


So me shareholders however have rightly questioned if this support was at the

expense of our shareholders.


The answer is clear – this was completely aligned with shareholder interests.


Treating customers with respect and providing help in the tough times earns

respect and loyalty in the good times.

In addition, in a time of ultra-low interest rates... giving customers a chance to
work things out is cheaper than at any-time in our history and so providing time

through deferrals can be a rational response for many customers, while

delivering greater long term value for ANZ and the community.


We were also mindful of how we approached deferrals, particularly for those

customers already finding it tough before COVID.


For these customers, we relied on ‘tried-and-tested’ assistance measures

normally applied in those difficult circumstances.


And unlike some of our competitors, we didn’t automatically opt our SME

customers into a deferral. Instead, we had thoughtful conversations to ensure it

was the right thing to do for them.


In such times, it is also natural for an organisation to be consumed by managing

the immediate impacts, while missing longer term challenges. So, while

protecting your business is of prime importance, it is not all we are doing.


We are getting on with the job of maintaining a well-managed business and

preparing for future opportunities.


Our strategy hasn’t changed.


We want to improve the financial wellbeing of our customers...we know when our

customers do well, we do well.


To do this:


We will have the right people who listen, learn and adapt. Our ability to mobilise

hundreds of people to help customers through the pandemic and the bushfires

are worthy examples of this.


We will put the best tools and insights in the hands of our people and customers,

such as our ability to open accounts for new-to-bank customers using only the

ANZ app.


And to focus on a few things and do them really well.


This includes helping people buy and own a home, start, run and grow a

business or conduct business around the region.


Our work to simplify and strengthen the bank has materially lowered our

exposure to potential credit and operational risks.


It’s worth remembering how we have de-risked your bank over the recent years,

including actions like:

• Exiting Asia retail and commercial;
• Selling Esanda motor dealer finance business;

• Prioritising owner occupied home loans over investor;

• Not providing a retail home-loan offering to self-managed super funds;

• Maintaining the lowest exposure to commercial property of the major banks;

and

• And of course...more recently...exit ing life insurance, superannuation and

financial planning.


Along with the progress we have made on remediating the failures of the past,

these decisions have meant your bank faces far fewer operational risks during

this crisis. It has also provided us with the capital to stand strong in tough times.


It was of course COVID that had the most material impact on our profitability.


With operating profit before these provisions broadly flat, the largest driver of

the profit reduction was setting aside a further $1.7bn for possible future losses.


To be clear, to date we have not lost a single dollar in terms of credit losses

resulting directly from COVID...but we have built up a substantial rainy day fund

if they do occur.


And looking through the immediate impact of the pandemic, our diversified

business delivered a decent revenue performance.


In Australia, we achieved six-months of consecutive market share growth in our

targeted owner-occupier market, while deposit growth remained very strong.


We also introduced new processes to help customers move to online banking.


The work we have spoken about for several years to simplify and refocus the

Institutional business proved massively beneficial.


In fact, our institutional bank outperformed and I’m proud of its transformation.


It demonstrates the value of a well-balanced, diversified portfolio in a market

defined by high levels of liquidity, low interest rates and geopolitical tensions.


In New Zealand, it was a tough revenue environment but we maintained

leadership in key segments and we remain well positioned to benefit from the

economic recovery that looks like it is well underway.


And right across the Group, an intense focus on costs allowed us to continue to

invest at record levels.


Customers

There is obviously a lot of interest from shareholders about how our customers
are faring in these difficult times.


Now the customers we approved for deferrals were good customers who, up

until the pandemic hit, were making their payments on-time and in many cases

were ahead of schedule.


Through no fault of their own, they were stood down from their job or their

business was forced to close.


Fortunately for many of our small business customers, the worst of the health

crisis appears to be under control as we entered into the most important month

of the year.


Our card data for the first week of December in Australia is up 14% year-on-

year. Spending is also up in New Zealand.


These positive trends are also flowing through to our deferral numbers.


In our Australian business, 92% of home loan customers that were granted an

initial deferral have already rolled off, or have advised us of their intentions to

do so.


And while our exposure to the SME market is much smaller, the data here is also

looking positive with only 3,000 business loans still on repayment deferrals.


The future


There has been much talk this year about managing through a crisis.


Overnight, organisations have had to adapt to new business models or

completely rethink their distribution.


At ANZ, we moved from 11 large buildings globally, each housing over 1,000

colleagues, to a network of 40,000 home offices.


We became a distributed network overnight and as a result we are more

responsive and flexible than ever before.


There is another way of thinking about a crisis – it i s of course just a period of

rapid change.


In fact, many of the great companies we think of today, companies like

Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon forged their success in periods of great

dislocation.


This is because people in a time of crisis have new needs and good companies

figure out how to provide for them.


And this is where my focus and the focus of my team is. We stand ready to take

advantage of the opportunities that will arise.


We are supporting our best customers and will emerge with stronger

relationships than we started.


We will continue to reshape our portfolio to produce a more balanced, lower risk

business that generates decent, more predictable returns.


We are going to continue to make the bank simpler and easier to manage.


Our recent decision to partner with global payments leader Worldline is a great

example.


This is a partnership that will provide our small business customers with access

to the world’s best technology, allow them to get paid, quickly, safely and at low

cost.


It also releases investment dollars to deliver new capabilities that will strengthen

our customer proposition.


In particular, we are really excited about the opportunities in sustainable

finance, open banking, better utilisation of data and expanding our banking-as -

a- service offerings.


In fact, ANZ is already the largest provider of banking services to other financial

institutions in Australia and New Zealand. This includes our leading market share

positions in clearing as well as providing new-payments platform infrastructure

to other banks.


Concluding remarks


No doubt this has been a tough year and shareholders have unfortunately also

been impacted.


We take our role in protecting and enhancing your wealth seriously.


Through our actions over the last few years, we have freed up $12.5 billion of

your capital, which has enabled us to invest in the business while buying back

more than 100 million shares.


As a result, we are the only major bank in Australia that hasn’t diluted

shareholders in recent years.


And this puts us in a very strong position to support customers while still

providing you with a decent return.


It also means we can play a leading role in financing the recovery in Australia

and New Zealand.


Perhaps one of the most pleasing aspects of 2020 has been how our people have

responded to the challenge.


We have achieved a great deal this year and none of this would have been

possible without a passionate and engaged team.


It hasn’t been easy for our people. Most have been forced to work from home,

with many having to juggle multiple commitments including remote learning for

young children.


Despite this they haven’t missed a beat, possibly best evidenced by the record

volumes of home loans processed through this period. I’m really proud of what

they have achieved and I’m proud to call them my colleagues.


Now I’ve been before you at these meetings as Chief Executive for five years.


In that time we have seen incredible change in the environment in which your

bank operates...whether it be the global compression of interest rates and

margins, the wave of regulatory intervention or the challenges of a global

pandemic.


During these challenges, I believe your bank has changed even more

significantly.


We have a substantially simpler business that is less focused on dealing with

problems and more focused on winning and keeping customers.


We have a work force with record engagement focused on our customers.


We have a management team that is diverse, talented and stable with a proven

track record of delivery.


I believe this sets us up to win in the coming years as we help shape a world

where the people and communities we serve once again thrive.


Finally, I’d also like to acknowledge the passing of our former Chief Executive

Will Bailey in August.


Many of you will remember that Will was Chief Executive between 1984 and

1992, having started as a teller in the Oakleigh branch of the old ES&A bank in

1950.


While I did not work with Will, I did meet him at several Retired Officer

functions. He was a mentor to many future ANZ leaders and made a significant

contribution in building the ANZ we all know today, particularly in his efforts to
modernise the bank through the use of technology.


We pass on our condolences to his wife Dorothy, as well as his family and

friends.


With that, I will hand you back to Paul.


Thank you.

FY20Statutory Profit After Tax
down 40% year on year

FY20 Collective Provision Charge
$1.7b

Collective Provision Balance

$5.0b (Sep-20)

FY20 Total Dividends Per Share
60cents

FullyFranked

CAPITAL
Common Equity Tier 1 Capital

$b

15

27

39

49

Sep-16Sep-08

1

Sep-12Sep-20

1. Sep-08 based on Fundamental Tier 1 Capital

SUSTAINABLE FINANCE & RENEWABLES TRANSACTIONS
Lendlease

AUD 500m

inaugural 7-year green

bond

Mercury

NZD 100m

inaugural 10-year

green bond

ANZ

AUD 1,250m

Tier 2 Capital 10yr

SDG Bond

Downer

AUD 1,400m

inaugural

sustainability-linked

loan

Canberra Metro

AUD 280m

inaugural 5yr green

loan for a public

private partnership

Olam

JPY 7,000m

inaugural 5-year

sustainability-linked

bond

YandinWind Farm

AUD 366m

project debt & equity

advisory

Formosa 2 Offshore

Wind Farm

TWD 6,380m/

EUR 90m

project finance loan

OUR 2020 CLIMATE CHANGE STATEMENT
Priority areas and how we are making change

Help our

customers

by encouraging them to

identify climate risks and

opportunities, create transition

plans and report publicly on

their progress

Support

transitioning

industries

to help grow the economy

Reduce our

own impact

by managing and reducing

emissions from our own

operations

OUR PURPOSE
To shape a world where people

and communities thrive

OUR STRATEGY
IMPROVE THE FINANCIAL WELL BEING OF OUR CUSTOMERS

Put the best tools and

insights in the hands

of our people and

customers

Have the right

people who listen,

learn and adapt

Focus on a few

things and do them

really well

AUSTRALIA HOUSING
ANZ home loan portfolio

Net Loans and Advances ($b)

178

178

188

80

79

82

258

Mar-20Sep-19

269

Sep-20

257

Owner OccupiedInvestor

1. Source: APRA Monthly ADI statistics

ANZ home loan market share

1

Apr-20May-20Jun-20Jul-20Sep-20

14.1%

Aug-20Oct-20

14.0%

14.2%

14.3%

14.4%

14.5%

14.6%

CUSTOMER LOAN DEFERRALS
1

Accounts (000s)

5

81

112

125

124124

110

48

33

31

Jun-20Mar-20Oct-20Aug-20Jul-20Apr-20Sep-20May-20Nov-20Dec-20 (11

th

)

1. End of month net position for Australia & New Zealand Home Loans and Australia Business Loans. Oct-20, Nov-20 & Dec-20 (11

th

) excludes accounts currently deferred where customer has indicated return

to payment at expiry

CAPITAL
Common Equity Tier 1 Capital freed up (FY16-FY20) $b

12.5

2.6

6.9

4.5

8.0

SourceUse

12.5

3.0

Announced asset sales

Retained for growth and capital mgt.

Announced buy-back completed

Net imposts (Reg. change, net of efficiencies)

Institutional reshaping

EquityInvestors
Jill Campbell

GroupGeneral Manager Investor

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Senior Manager

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Manager Shareholder Services &

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=== IR PAGE TRANSCRIPT: Transcript of Interview with Acting CFO and CRO ===

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For Release: 05 May 2021


Transcript of podcast with ANZ Chief Risk Officer Kevin

Corbally, ANZ Acting Chief Financial Officer Shane Buggle

and ANZ GGM Investor Relations Jill Campbell


JILL CAMPBELL: Hi everyone. I’m Jill Campbell, the head of investor relations for ANZ.

Welcome to all of you listening to today’s discussion, which accompanies ANZ’s release of its

first half 2021 financial results. As we always do, we’ve released a number of materials

today via the ASX. All of which are also available on the ANZ website in the Shareholder

Centre. Our CEO and acting CFO present the results to the market and a slide pack

accompanies that presentation. You might find it useful to refer to that slide pack after

listening to this interview. The presentation which occurs at 10 am is taped and it’s available

for replay on our website. I’m speaking today with our Chief Risk Officer Kevin Corbally and

our acting CFO Shane Buggle. Covering some areas of interest to those of you looking to

delve a little deeper into several areas of the result. I’m going to start with you Shane. ANZ

announced an increased dividend today. Dividends ultimately are a board decision. What

kinds of factors do the management team and the Board weigh up in making those

decisions?


SHANE BUGGLE: Thanks Jill. Look at the outset I think it’s important to say that The Board -

and indeed management - are very aware of how much shareholders value dividends. We

know that last year the reduced dividend was really hard on lots of our shareholders. In this

half the dividend decision required the weighing up of a few factors – our capital levels, and

within that the level of capital generation which reflects how our business is travelling, and

of course the level of credit provisions held. This is an important consideration given the

environment we’re in. We know the market values a level of predictability and sustainability

in dividend flow, so we’re pleased to be able to move closer to our longer term payout ratio

and to fully frank the dividend. The environment though is still unpredictable. We saw

another snap lockdown in WA only recently. And the world is a long way from being out of

the woods. While Australia and New Zealand have come through well so far, some

conservatism is warranted. I also want to say that shareholders should see the dividend

announced today as a sign the Group is well placed.


JILL CAMPBELL: Well, last year, and actually a few times now ANZ has returned capital.

Given that the Group is sitting at 12.5% CET1 on a proforma basis, will we do that again?


SHANE BUGGLE: Look, capital efficiency remains a key element of ANZ’s strategy and

you’ve seen the Group’s focus on that over the last five years. And I think we can say we’ve

been a good steward of capital. As you say, our CET ratios are comfortably above APRA’s

‘unquestionably strong’ benchmark, about $7 billion dollars above it in fact. So clearly we

have some flexibility to consider capital management if the capital isn’t required in the

business or there aren’t reinvestment opportunities. However, there’s still a fair bit of

uncertainty across the various economies we operate in and being strongly capitalised is

important. For example, we won’t see the full impact of the end of JobKeeper for a few

months and there are parts of the economy that are having a harder time. So we have to

balance a strong capital position and the desire for capital efficiency with where we are in

this cycle. And that balance is something we continue to discuss.


JILL CAMPBELL: Thanks Shane. I’m going to move to you now Kevin. ANZ released a net

$491 million of provisions today, credit provisions. It’s quite amazing isn’t, it if you think

back to this time last year? Can you walk through the thinking behind that outcome?


KEVIN CORBALLY: Sure. And just to clarify that net $491 million provision release that you

refer to is comprised of a $678 million collective provision release, which is offset by a $187

million individual provision charge. And there’s a number of balancing factors here which

have to be weighed up. We came into this financial year in a strong position both from a
capital and provisioning perspective and we’re now at 12.5% Common Equity Tier 1 ratio

and we’ve got $5.1 billion in total provision balances, which includes $4.3 billion in collective

provision balances at the end of the first half. And you may recall last year I mentioned that

we had a relatively new accounting standard – referred to AASB 9 – which applies to all

banks. And it required us to hold provisions for future losses, not only due to circumstances

today, but also due to how we expect the economy to evolve in the future. So that’s more of

a forward-looking assessment and I think I referred to it as setting money aside for the

future rainy day that you may or may not need. Now we put on $1.7 billion of additional

provision charges between March and September last year for that rainy day. And look,

essentially it hasn’t rained as much as we thought it might. So through the first half of this

year we’ve released about a third of that increase from last year. Now the improved

economic outlook – noting that this is relative to what were pretty dire estimates this time

last year – gives us comfort to release some of that build-up in provisions. The economy and

then, by definition, many of our customers both big and small are currently appearing to be

in a much better place than was anticipated at the same time last year. And we also saw

some portfolio reductions in Exposure at Default during the half – largely in Institutional –

as well as improved trading conditions across a number of sectors, which have resulted in

an improvement in our risk ratings of both our Institutional and elements of our Commercial

and Retail customer base. Nevertheless though, we thought it was prudent and appropriate

to hold onto a significant amount of the build-up. Given as Shayne just mentioned a few

moments ago, we’re not out of the woods yet.


JILL CAMPBELL: Ok, so let’s go into that last comment just a little bit more, if you could

expand on it. What kinds of things would you need to see? What are you looking for that

would give you more comfort to perhaps release some more provision in the future?


KEVIN CORBALLY: Sure. Look, remember we struck our provisions estimates at the end of

March. There was then, and quite frankly there still are, a number of uncertainties. So for

example, JobKeeper and JobSeeker had only just finished, the deferral program for

mortgage and commercial customers had just finished, Brisbane had actually announced a

lockdown. And looking back, the volatility in economic outlook over the last year has been

quite extraordinary. I think about this time last year, and even September last year I should

say, our economists thought housing prices would decline by 9% this year. Now the

expectation is up by 17%. And as a management team, together with the Board, we have to

shepherd through that and strike some sort of balance. And additionally, other factors like

the speed of vaccine rollout, sporadic snap lockdowns and events happening offshore, all

have to be considered. While things are definitely way better in Australia and New Zealand

than they were this time last year, this is an extreme event and there’s quite a bit yet to

play out. So we want to exercise some caution notwithstanding the strong capital and

provision balance that I mentioned before.


JILL CAMPBELL: Ok. So with banks like ANZ, or any of the big banks and small banks, they

have what are called internal risk models that have to deal into these kinds of situations.

How does a model deal into this?


KEVIN CORBALLY: In what I suppose I would call normal or relatively benign economic

conditions, the models that we use to calculate our expected credit loss work well for our

provision estimates. But the models were not calibrated to deal with the extreme economic

movements that we’ve seen in the last 12 months. We moderated our economic scenario

weights so there was reduced weighting to the base case, which is – our base case is

somewhat at the optimistic end of consensus forecasts. And we increased the weightings to

the downside with some additional provisions that we held onto to reflect the higher risk

associated with our models under those volatile economic conditions. We also took a small

increase in our management overlays to reflect the fact that our modelled delinquency

numbers don’t reflect that the substantial deferral support packages that have assisted our

customers. And we re-evaluate the effectiveness of the modelled delinquency peaks every

quarter and in this case we took an additional $50m increase to overlays that are held

predominately for our Mortgages and Small Business books. So stepping back and thinking

about where the economy is at, especially relative to last year, how many of our customers

have returned to normal payments post the payment deferrals. But also the level of
volatility and uncertainty that still exists, we believe our current provision levels are prudent

and appropriate and we’re comfortable with the level of the release.


JILL CAMPBELL: Thank you. So most of what we’ve just talked about is really about what

we’d call collective provision. If we talk a little bit now about individual provision because

that tends to be the money you do lose. It was quite a bit lower this half and we saw this in

the quarter as well than the longer term, how should we think about that?


KEVIN CORBALLY: The first step is to think about the composition of the individual provision

charge, it’s actually an aggregate of provisions taken for newly impaired exposures,

increases in provisions that we hold for existing impaired exposures and then any write

backs or recoveries that we receive as part of our workout activities. And essentially in the

half, write backs and recoveries were basically in line with the last two halves and

substantially offset provisions that we raised for new impaireds. Increased impaireds were a

relatively small component of the provision charge for the half. There’s no question this is

abnormally low. F or example, over the last seven or eight halves we would average around

$400 million in a half. I think this reflects a few things. Importantly, it reflects the fact that

our larger customers are in a much better financial position and also unquestionably I think

it reflects the ongoing work on reducing our risk profile and improving the credit quality of

our book - not just in our Institutional business - over the last number of years. In addition,

it clearly also reflects the government support by way of various programs over the course

of last year and early into this year. And also the deferral programs that the banks provided.

And these last two factors provided customers I think with valuable time to navigate the

first stages of the crisis.


JILL CAMPBELL: Absolutely. Thank you. Shane I’m going to go back to you now we’ll talk

about margins. Good margin performance in the first half, when you look through it, what

were the drivers?


SHANE BUGGLE: Thanks Jill. Look it is a good margin performance, in fact this is the best

margin performance in a decade. Margin was up 6 basis points in the half or 3 basis points

to 160 basis points on an underlying basis. And importantly, the margin was up in each of

our divisions. This outcome is in line with the outlook provided at both the Full Year 20

Result and the First Quarter Trading Update. And so over the period we’ve had to manage

across a number of competing factors. Now the trading environment both helped and hurt.

Now there’s a chart in the pack which will step you through what I’m just about to talk

through.


JILL CAMPBELL: Right.


SHANE BUGGLE: I recommend people have a look at that. So we saw a negative 3 basis

points impact from low rates on capital and replicated deposits, net of repricing after the

standard and variable cash rate change. We also saw a negative 3 basis points impact

arising from holding higher liquid assets. The higher liquids meant we were able to reduce

our reliance on the RBA’s committed liquidity facility and so while negative for margins, it’s

actually a positive for returns. Asset margins improved 2 basis points and that was the

outcome of better Institutional lending margins, somewhat offset by competitive pressures

in home lending. There was a mix benefit primarily in liabilities and specifically we saw

higher at call deposits which were up 5 per cent on average. And finally we benefited from

good deposit management pricing across all business as well as lower wholesale funding

costs. Together, those two items drove a 4 basis points benefit.


JILL CAMPBELL: The drag on margins that comes from, what gets called in the industry,

replicating deposits, has been pretty persistent and this is for the sector, not just ANZ.

You’ve mentioned it in your commentary that it might be lower in the next half, can you

walk through why?


SHANE BUGGLE: Yes, that’s a really good question. So just standing back thinking about

that portfolio, the tenor of that portfolio is three to five years and so the sector has seen a

headwind arise as maturing tranches are replaced by new tranches at lower interest rates.
We called out, as you said, a 3 basis point impact for the first half 21 and that’s precisely

where we came in. In the second half we think the impact will be more like 1 basis point and

that’s for a couple of reasons, the first is the impact of the older tranches rolling off relative

to current investment yields is reducing, so the delta between the two is reducing. And

secondly, with rates moving higher recently there’s been an opportunity to invest deposit

growth over the last 12 months at better yields out of the five-year swap which reduces the

NIM drag. We’ll update on how we’re seeing FY22 at the Full Year results.


JILL CAMPBELL: Sure. The area of deposits looks like it’s been a benefit and again, this is

the sector, not just ANZ. Is there much more that you can do in that space?


SHANE BUGGLE: Yes, you’re right. Deposit growth in the system was strong last year off the

back of the high level government assistance. And the lockdowns limited people’s activity as

well. So we’ve seen our customers, and that’s pretty much across the board, behaving

conservatively and responsibly and building up buffers if you like. You would have to

imagine sector deposit growth, given its coming off that much elevated base, will moderate

in the second half. Although households will see the benefit of tax refunds and it’s possible

that stronger credit growth will assist businesses. Opportunities to do more repricing in

deposits are reducing, although we will see the full half benefit in the second half from

repricing done in the first half.


JILL CAMPBELL: Okay. If we go to costs now. So still with you Shane. Another good cost

outcome, and this has become something that ANZ’s built up a bit of a track record on,

when you look at the results travel through this half, what do you see, how does that work?


SHANE BUGGLE: Well you’re right, strong cost management has been a key element of

ANZ’s broader strategy since the start of financial year 16 and through that period we’ve

delivered consistent absolute cost reductions in expenses – that’s over the five-year period.

So the way we think about it is to focus on continuing to reduce the running, what we call

the running of the business costs so that we can increase investment in what we call our

accelerated strategy, without increasing the overall cost base. And if you adjust for FX, total

costs were down 1 per cent for the half after absorbing around $25 million of inflation. That

savings that we generated in running the business costs, helped us absorb an increase in

people costs as we responded to extra demand related to COVID, which was additional call

centre staff for example. A nd some higher leave costs that included granting extra leave to

staff as recognition for their efforts through COVID. As I mentioned, we’ve continued to

invest through the savings we’ve got from the running of the business and we’ve invested in

digital channels, process automation, optimising our property footprint, and simplifying end

to end processes. Broadly, if you think about it, this is the work to be able to deliver faster,

better, cheaper services to our customers over time and a better experience for our teams

and staff.


JILL CAMPBELL: And just finishing up, when you think about the $8 billion cost base

ambition that ANZ has, are the drivers of that – so I guess the path from here – are they

any different to the way that the costs have been structured over the last five years? Or is it

a case of just building on what we’ve already done?


SHANE BUGGLE: Yes, the last one. The premise is exactly the same – continue to work

away on reducing running the business costs so we can invest. We have, as you said Jill, a

really good track record on this, a real discipline in the organisation. It is now after five

years, part of the DNA of the organisation.


JILL CAMPBELL: It’s a thing.


SHANE BUGGLE: It’s a thing. So, finding headroom to increase investment is important as

this drives real benefits and not only in terms of costs, but importantly in customer

experience and operational risk and reducing operational risk. The more automated

processes are and the more straight through they are, the less manual intervention is

required and so the less chance of an error or a delay. Our customer’s expectations have

continued to evolve and we are evolving along with them. We want banking to be an easy
experience given it is such an important part of our customer’s lives.


JILL CAMPBELL: Absolutely. So thanks to both of you and that’s the end of our session

today. As I’ve mentioned to those of you listening, there’s quite a bit of material available

on our website around the results, so please make sure to have a look at that. Thank you.



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News Release

For Release: 5 May 2021


Transcript of bluenotes video interview with ANZ Chief

Executive Officer Shayne Elliott


ANDREW CORNELL: Morning Shayne, thanks very much for joining us on bluenotes for the

morning of the half year result. On the surface this looks a very strong, perhaps surprisingly

strong set of numbers, but how much of that is due to the economic fallout from the

pandemic not being as bad as feared? And how much is operational things that ANZ has

done?


SHAYNE ELLIOTT: Well, inevitably Andrew it is a little bit of both. But talking about the

strong result, I think it’s important to put it into perspective. What we’re seeing here is

really a rebound, like the economy that we’ve seen rebound, so too has the bank’s result

rebounded. And a lot of that is absolutely linked to the much better outlook we’ve seen and

the much better performance we’ve seen in the economy. So that’s true. If I think about the

overall result though to put it in perspective, it’s still lower than it had been some years ago

so we shouldn’t forget that. But, of course, in order to take advantage of those opportunities

in order to participate in that rebound it’s really down to the operational performance of the

bank. Did we get the right settings in terms of capital? Did we have the right responses to

customers? Were we able to operate successfully through a very, very difficult period of

time? At ANZ we’re very proud of the fact that we’ve been able to do that – stand by

customers, get things done for them in a really unusual set of circumstances. So it’s a really

good result for the time, but we think we can do better and that’s what we’re really focussed

on, better for our customers and actually better for our shareholders.


I might, if you will, just walk through a little bit. If I think about revenue, revenue was down

a little bit. So what does that tell you? It says that we had more customers we were able to

serve, doing more things for them, processing more transactions, but actually overall

customers paid us less for that. That’s a good thing for customers. That’s a good thing for

the economy. And in response to that – which wasn’t news to us, we’ve been preparing for

this for a period of time knowing that banking was always going to get harder, not

necessarily ... we didn’t foresee a pandemic, but we knew it was always going to be harder –

so that’s why we’ve been really trimming our sails, if you will, and getting our costs

appropriately set. And we had a very good result on costs again where we got the cost of

running the bank down in absolute terms. And of course, the real boost to the result and the

reason the headline looks good is, of course, releasing those credit provisions. Last year we

were worried, quite rightly, and put aside a lot of money for a rainy day. As it turned out,

the economy performed better, we didn’t need all of those reserves so we released a little

bit of it and that’s what’s really given a bit of a boost to the result this half.



ANDREW CORNELL: And if we dig down a bit into those results, and setting aside the terrible

and ongoing consequences of the pandemic, we’ve seen as in many things, a sort of

acceleration in what’s happened in the last 12 months. There’s been multiple business cycles

almost. Corporates were gearing up then there was deferrals by retail customers on home

loans, then there was that rapid take up of digital banking – so much was happening. So

how did this play out in the individual business in the bank? Was it different across the

bank?


SHAYNE ELLIOTT: Absolutely it was different across the bank. Let’s not forget we operate in

32 markets around the world, mostly in Asia-Pacific and of course at a first instance all of

those countries have been going through different levels of managing through COVID, the
actual health consequences. What I’m really pleased about though is that at ANZ,

operationally we really didn’t miss a beat. We were able to respond really quickly to what

was going on, almost in real time. Getting people out of the office, back at home. Getting

them back into the office. Giving customers access to liquidity when they needed it and

actually getting it back and taking on liquidity when they didn’t. Getting customers to move

to those digital channels, we had to literally write code and get new apps out so that people

could operate digitally in a matter of weeks. So that inherent agility that we’ve been working

on at ANZ, while not perfect, really came through in this year and that’s really what you

want to have. You want to have a business that can respond at pace, continue to operate,

do the right thing for customers and quickly adapt to the times.


ANDREW CORNELL: And yet, you’ve referenced several times ongoing caution – I mean

really, when we see what’s happening in India for example, we can see why there’s ongoing

caution – but when you look at that mix of businesses again, are there some where you’re

more cautious and some where you’re more optimistic than others?


SHAYNE ELLIOTT: Yes. So first of all, we’re a bank, let’s not forget that we are highly

leveraged as an organisation and so we have to be extremely prudent and thoughtful when

we run the bank in terms of our risk appetite – whether that’s from a balance sheet

perspective or whether it’s operationally. Remember this result Andrew, is really talking

about the bank as at the 31st of March. Well that was literally the day or the day after

things like JobKeeper finished. So it’s a bit early to tell what the consequences of that are.

We’re very optimistic. There are lots of reasons to be positive about the outlook, particularly

in Australia and New Zealand. But there are also things to be cautious about – we don’t

know how the vaccine rollout’s going to go globally, there are some geopolitical tensions

that are still making waves in terms of trade and capital flow and those sorts of things. So

right now, we’re cautiously optimistic. We’re feeling like we’ve got our settings in a really

good position, lots of capital – in fact record levels of capital – lots of liquidity, so that

means we’ve got the ability to support customers who need it. And, operationally, a really

resilient team of people who have got the right technology and tools to be able to do the

right thing and pivot where that help is needed.


ANDREW CORNELL: You mentioned lots of capital, very strong capital generation. For

investors, last year was obviously a year when they suffered the pain of having dividends

cut, I’m sure they’re welcoming dividends coming back up again. What sort of flexibility then

do you have around that capital maybe in terms of more returns to shareholders?


SHAYNE ELLIOTT: One of the hallmarks, I think, of the way we’ve managed ANZ over the

last few years is really that focus on shareholder value and making sure we’re really looking

after them for the long term. So we’ve been taking a very prudent approach to managing

our shareholders’ capital. We haven’t put our hands into their pocket and asked for more.

Yes, last year we didn’t distribute capital through the normal ways in terms of dividends to

the extent we’ve done in the past because the prudent thing to do was to be a little bit

cautious and I think that has worked, really, extraordinarily well and in the interests of

those shareholders. So we’re conscious of it and it’s great that we’re able to return to a

more normal dividend policy for now. As you quite rightly point out, we’re sitting on a record

level of capital. In the “techy terms” we’re sitting on a CET1 ratio of 12.5% on a proforma

basis. That’s about $7 billion more than we would normally require to be unquestionably

strong. We’re very mindful of that. That money serves us no purpose other than it is a sense

of safety and prudence in a time of uncertainty. And at the time when we’ve got more

confidence about the future, of course we’re very mindful that that money belongs to our

shareholders and we would explore options to return it – either to invest in the business for

growth, or to return it into the pockets of our shareholders.


ANDREW CORNELL: Another comment you made just before is about, even with the

rebound that we hope continues after COVID, this is a mature market. Revenue

opportunities are hard to come by, there’s the focus on absolute costs, so where is the

growth opportunity – if we can set aside the uncertainty?

SHAYNE ELLIOTT: What you really saw over the last five years was a strategy designed to
simplify what we do, get better and better at it, and we think that will result in a lower cost

base and actually give us that platform for growth. Because when you get into that positive

cycle, doing great things for customers at a lower cost, the rest is sort of easy. A nd that’s

where we’re starting to see that coming through in our numbers in terms of the kinds of

customers that are choosing ANZ and the amount of business that they’re giving us. ANZ’s

one of the largest providers, if not the largest provider of banking services, financial

services, to other parts of the financial sector. For example, things like the New Payments

Platform, which enables real time payments in this country. Huge investment. Major banks

invested along with the RBA to create the ability for me to send you money literally in real

time. We built that and then what we’ve done is we’ve said ‘well, we’ve got this great

capability we can provide that to a whole bunch of other financial institutions who didn’t

have that capability’. We are by far the market leader in that, in fact we dominate that quite

significantly. Guess what? Volumes through that machine are skyrocketing, they’re up

hugely year-on -year-on -year and that’s going to be a massive growth engine for us.

Clearing, bit of a “techy” area of banking, but when other banks and other people send

money into Australia or New Zealand that goes through what we call a clearing payments

network. We have, again, more than 50 per cent market share in those things. That’s a

processing business, we’re really good at it, we’ve been growing our share and guess what?

That’s a very, very fast growing business. So there’s a lot of growth in areas like that, which

are probably not the first thing people think about when they think about banking.


ANDREW CORNELL: Well thanks very much for your time. I was just thinking it’s actually

the first time for about 18 months that we’ve been able to shoot this video sitting opposite

one another. What’s it like being back in the office? How do you see the return to office

playing out?


SHAYNE ELLIOTT: Well it’s great. We’re moving back to a hybrid model, I guess like a lot of

companies, where people are working in the office most of the week, but at home when

they need to. We went through an amazing change I think at ANZ ... in terms of getting

people out of the office at home and now we’re seeing this move back. And I look at the

data every day and what our people are telling us is that they want to be in the office, they

like to collaborate – it’s really important for us to be able to do that to deliver great

customer outcomes, but it doesn’t have to be every day. So, coming back into the office has

been great for me. What I’ve really enjoyed about it personally has just been that informal

ability to connect with other people, to be able to solve problems quickly by going to see

somebody. Or, actually it’s the informal running into people in the corridor and saying ‘hey,

I’ve got something on my mind we need to solve it’. A lot of us have got together and said

the speed at which we’re able to solve problems and do things is really enhanced when

you’re with other people and frankly, so is the creativity. So I think this blend is great. It’s

great for ANZ, it suits our culture as an organisation and actually we think it’s going to make

us a stronger company for the years ahead. It was an interesting experiment having to work

from home five days a week, but I’m glad to be back.


ANDREW CORNELL: I’m with you. It’s good to meet other people again and catch up

informally, but thanks very much for your time this morning.


SHAYNE ELLIOTT: Thank you.



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