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WESTPAC 3Q24 INVESTOR DISCUSSION PACK


Following are Westpac’s 3Q24 slides covering financial performance, capital, credit

quality and funding for the three months ended 30 June 2024.








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3Q24 INVESTOR
DISCUSSION PACK

FOR THE 3 MONTHS ENDED 30 JUNE 2024

© Westpac Banking Corporation ABN 33 007 457 141

This document should be read in conjunction with Westpac’s

June 2024 Pillar 3 Report. All amounts are in Australian dollars.

3Q24 SUMMARY
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SUMMARY

1 30 June 2024 compared to 31 March 2024 unless otherwise stated. 2 3Q24 annualised. 3 Based on Monthly ADI statistics published by APRA for the 3 months ending 30 June 2024. 4 Target operating range is 11.0-11.5%.

5 Quarterly average liquidity coverage ratio.

FUNDING AND LIQUIDITY REMAIN WELL POSITIONED

•LCR 130%

5

•NSFR 113%

•Deposit to loan ratio 83.3%, up 40bps

CAPITAL ABOVE OPERATING RANGE

•CET1 capital ratio of 12.0%, above target

operating range

4

•RWA up $7.3bn or 1.6% mainly due to loan

growth and higher IRRBB

WELL PROVISIONED

•Total provisions $5.1bn, flat

•CAP to credit RWA 134bps, down 4bps

•Stressed assets to TCE 1.42%, up 6bps

•Mortgage 90+ day delinquencies:

•Australia 1.12%, up 6bps

•New Zealand 0.47%, flat

STRONG FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE

•Net profit $1.8bn, up 6%, excluding Notable Items

up 2%:

−revenue flat

−expenses up 2%

•NIM up 3bps to 1.92%, Core NIM up 2bps to 1.82%

•Australian household deposit growth of 3%

2

and

housing loan growth of 8%

2,

which outperformed

system

3

•Expenses increased 2% reflecting

higherinvestment and technology spend

•Impairment charges to average loans of 4bps,

down from 9bps

NET INTEREST MARGIN
$b 3Q24

% movement

3Q24 - 1H24 qtr

average

Net interest income4.7-

Non-interest income0.7(4)

Net operating income5.4-

Expenses(2.7)2

Pre-provision profit2.7(2)

Impairment charges(0.1)(58)

Tax and non-controlling

interests (NCI)

(0.8)2

Net profit1.82

LOANS AND DEPOSITS ($BN)

NET PROFIT EXCLUDING NOTABLE ITEMS

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FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE

Composition of NIM (%)


1Q242Q243Q24

Core NIM1.801.791.82

Treasury & Markets0.130.150.12

Core NIM, Treasury & Markets1.931.941.94

Notable Items: Hedging(0.15)0.06(0.02)

NIM1.782.001.92

756

785

800

Jun-23Mar-24Jun-24

Up 6%

636

651

666

Jun-23Mar-24Jun-24

FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE

Up 5%

LoansDeposits

3

12.55
39

11.96

11.91

(58)

(21)

(11)

(5)(3)

(5)

Mar-243Q24

Net profit

1H24

dividend

RWASpecial

dividend

Share

buyback

OtherJun-24Jun-24

Pro forma

Key capital ratios (%)

Sep-

23

Mar-

24

Jun-

24

Level 2 CET1

capital ratio

12.412.512.0

Additional Tier 1

capital ratio

2.22.52.4

Tier 1 capital ratio14.615.014.4

Tier 2 capital ratio5.96.46.5

Total regulatory

capital ratio

20.521.420.9

Risk weighted assets

(RWA)


($bn)

451444452

Leverage ratio 5.55.55.4

Level 1 CET1 capital ratio12.612.812.1

Internationally comparable ratios

5

Leverage ratio

(internationally

comparable)

6.06.05.8

CET1 capital ratio

(internationally

comparable)

18.718.617.8

LEVEL 2 CET1 CAPITAL RATIO MOVEMENTS (%, BPS)

CET1 CAPITAL RATIO 12.0%

CAPITAL

1 Capital deductions and other items including FX translation impacts. 2 Remaining $1.4 billion of announced on market share buybacks in Nov-23 and May-24. 3 Reduction in operational risk

capital overlay from $1 billion to $500 million effective Jul-24. 4 APRA approved IRRBB model effective Aug-24. 5 Internationally comparable methodology references the Australian Banking

Association (ABA) study on the comparability of APRA’s capital framework and finalised reform released on 10 March 2023.

1

Remaining share buyback: (33bps)

2


Op risk overlay removal: 17bps

3

IRRBB model approval: 11bps

4

Lending : (10bps)

Credit quality : (5bps)

IRRBB: (8bps)

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(0.3)
444.4

3.8

2.9

0.60.3451.7

Mar-24Credit riskIRRBBMarket riskOperational riskOtherJun-24

RWA

1

($BN)

CREDIT RWA

1

($BN)IRRBB RWA

1

($BN)

16

8

9

20

21

22

5

5

5

40

34

36

4.26

3.79

4.21

-4

-3

-2

-1

0

1

2

3

4

-10

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

RISK WEIGHTED ASSET MOVEMENTS

CAPITAL

1 Chart may not add due to rounding. 2 Counter-party credit and mark to market risk.

339.7

3.5

1.9

343.6

(0.7)(0.5)

(0.4)

Mar-24LendingCredit

quality

Data

refinement

CPC &

MTM risk

FX

translation

Jun-24

Up $3.8bn or 1.1%

Up $7.3bn or 1.6%

2

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Driven by residential

mortgage arrears

Optionality and basis risk

Embedded loss/(gain)

Repricing and yield curve risk

3y Swap rate (in %)

407
351

442

461

526

1,035

1,061

1,109

1,231

1,278

2,200

2,405

2,410

2,478

2,399

809

692

708

705

712

647

432

403

260

213

5,098

4,941

5,072

5,135

5,128

Jun-23Sep-23Dec-23Mar-24Jun-24

Overlay Stage 1 CAP Stage 2 CAP

Stage 3 CAP Stage 3 IAP

Increased mortgage

90+ day delinquencies

Forecasts for

base case ECL

2

Base caseDownside

20242025

Trough /

peak

3

GDP growth1.6%2.3%(6%)

Unemployment4.3%4.6%11%

Residential property prices4.2%4.0%(27%)

Commercial property prices(9.3%)1.4%(32%)

KEY RATIOS

TOTAL PROVISIONS FOR EXPECTED CREDIT LOSSES

1

($M)

PROVISIONS FOR EXPECTED CREDIT LOSS

CREDIT QUALITY

1 Includes provisions for debt securities. 2 Forecast date is 17 June 2024. 3 These key economic indicators represent trough or peak values that characterise the scenarios considered in setting

downside severity. Residential and commercial forecasts represent cumulative reduction over a two-year period.

Includes a reduction in

overlay for mortgage

delinquencies

reflected in higher

stage 3 modelled

provisions

Increase driven by 4

single name exposures

Reduction reflects

changes to economic

forecasts and the

transition to stage 3

CAP

Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

Provisions to gross loans (bps)636564

Impaired asset provisions

to impaired assets (%)

434743

Collectively assessed provisions

to credit RWA (bps)

135138134

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FORECASTS USED IN ECONOMIC SCENARIOS

0.12
0.110.11

0.12

0.15

0.35

0.39

0.42

0.46

0.49

0.23

0.22

0.22

0.24

0.23

0.46

0.54

0.47

0.54

0.55

1.16

1.26

1.22

1.36

1.42

Jun-23Sep-23Dec-23Mar-24Jun-24

ImpairedNon-performing, 90+ days

Non-performing, <90 daysWatchlist & substandard

AUSTRALIAN MORTGAGE DELINQUENCIES (%)

AUSTRALIAN CONSUMER FINANCE 90+ DELINQUENCIES (%)

STRESSED EXPOSURES AS A % OF TCE

CREDIT QUALITY METRICS

CREDIT QUALITY

1 Portfolio has been in run off since March 2022.

0.78

2.64

4.10

0.0

1.0

2.0

3.0

4.0

5.0

6.0

Jun-22Dec-22Jun-23Dec-23Jun-24

Credit cardsPersonal loansAuto finance

(consumer - in run off)

0.76

1.12

1.90

0.0

1.0

2.0

3.0

4.0

Jun-22Dec-22Jun-23Dec-23Jun-24

90+ dpd excl. 6

months serviceability

hold-out period

90+ day

delinquencies

30+ day

delinquencies

1

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0.0
1.0

2.0

3.0

4.0

5.0

6.0

7.0

8.0

PropertyWholesale

&

retail trade

ManufacturingAgriculture,

forestry &

fishing

ServicesProperty &

business

services

UtilitiesTransport

&

storage

ConstructionAccommodation

cafes &

restaurants

Mining

Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

CORPORATE AND BUSINESS STRESSED EXPOSURES BY INDUSTRY SECTOR (%)

EXPOSURE AND CREDIT QUALITY BY SECTOR

Sector

Finance &

Insurance

1

Property

2

Wholesale &

retail tradeManufacturing

Agriculture,

forestry &

fishingServices

3

Property &

business

servicesUtilities

Transport &

storageConstruction

4

Accomm,

cafes &

restaurantsMining

TCE ($bn)

Jun-24168.684.231.126.125.124.724.621.419.813.811.37.9

Mar-24195.482.231.125.424.324.624.020.620.513.111.57.6

Stressed (%)

5,6

Jun-240.12.55.63.35.53.23.10.41.15.33.94.7

Mar-240.12.65.23.15.23.02.80.51.15.73.75.2

Impaired (%)

6

Jun-240.00.10.80.90.50.40.50.00.40.70.30.1

Mar-240.00.10.70.60.30.40.50.00.10.60.30.1

CREDIT QUALITY ACROSS SECTORS

CREDIT QUALITY

1 Finance and insurance includes banks, non-banks, insurance companies and other firms providing services to the finance and insurance sectors. Includes assets held for liquidity portfolio. 2 Property includes both

residential and non-residential property investors and developers and excludes real estate agents. 3 Services includes education, health & community services, cultural & recreational and personal & other services.

4 Construction includes building and non-building construction, and industries serving the construction sector. 5 Includes impaired exposures. 6 Percentage of portfolio TCE.

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Downgrade of a small

number of customers

Australian mortgage portfolio
Sep-23

balance

Mar-24

balance

Jun-24

balance

Total portfolio ($bn)

485.6495.2504.2

Owner occupied (OO) (%)

67.167.867.7

Investment property loans (IPL) (%)

31.631.031.2

Portfolio loan/line of credit (LOC) (%)

1.31.21.1

Variable rate / Fixed rate (%)

76/2485/1589/11

Interest only (I/O) (%)

12.812.312.0

Proprietary channel (%)

50.849.748.7

First home buyer (%)

10.811.311.5

Mortgage insured (%)

13.112.612.0

Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

Average loan size

1

($’000)

301309316

Customers ahead on repayments

including offset account balances


(%)

By accounts

798081

By balances

757778

Mortgage losses net of insurance

2

($m)21

2014

Annual mortgage loss rate

3

(bps)0.7

0.80.9

Hardship

4

balances (% of portfolio)0.71

1.051.18

FIXED RATE MORTGAGE EXPIRY SCHEDULE

($BN, FOR THE 6MTHS TO)

LOAN-TO-VALUE RATIOS (LVRS) (%)

AUSTRALIAN MORTGAGE PORTFOLIO COMPOSITION

MORTGAGE CREDIT QUALITY

1 Average loan size includes amortisation. Calculated at account level, where split loans represent more than one account. 2 Mortgage losses for Sep-23 and March-24 are for the 6 months ending. Mortgages losses for June

are for the 3 months ending. 3 Mortgage loss rates for September are actual losses for the 12 months ending. Mortgage loss rates for March are annualised, based on losses for the 6 months ending. Mortgage loss rates for

June are annualised, based on losses for the 9 months ending. 4 Financial hardship assistance is available to customers experiencing temporary financial difficulty, including changes in income due to illness, a relationship

breakdown or natural disasters. Hardship assistance often takes the form of a reduction or deferral of repayments for a short period. 5 Dynamic LVR is the loan-to-value ratio taking into account the current loan balance,

changes in security value, offset account balances and other loan adjustments. Property valuation source CoreLogic.

18

12

19

20

19

51

37

30

21

14

10

Mar-22Sep-22Mar-23Sep-23Mar-24Sep-24Mar-25Sep-25>Sep-25

ExpiredYet to expire

22

17

41

12

6

1

65

15

12

6

1

0.4

0.6

0

20

40

60

80

100

0<=6060<=7070<=8080<=9090<=9595<=100>100

Portfolio LVR at originationPortfolio dynamic LVR

5

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CUSTOMERS AHEAD ON REPAYMENTS

1

(% BY BALANCES)

OFFSET ACCOUNT BALANCES

2

($BN)BUFFER TO BALANCE RATIO

3

(%)

2

24

20

19

14

22

2

21

19

20

15

23

2

20

19

21

16

23

BehindOn time< 1mth< 6mths>2yrs

Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

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AUSTRALIAN MORTGAGE PORTFOLIO REPAYMENT BUFFERS

MORTGAGE CREDIT QUALITY

1 Customer loans ahead on payments exclude equity/line of credit products as there are no scheduled principal payments. Includes mortgage offset accounts. ‘Behind’ is more than 30 days past due.

‘On time’ includes up to 30 days past due. 2 Includes RAMS from Sep-20 onwards. 3 Excludes Line of Credit.

14

5

4

16

39

Jun-24

Investment property loans –

generally maintain higher

balances for tax purposes

Accounts opened in the last

12 months

Structural restrictions on

repayments e.g. fixed rate

Residual – <1 month

repayment buffer

Chart does not add due to rounding

>6mths

to <2yrs

Loans ‘on time’

and <1mth ahead

19.0

19.419.419.4

18.9

Sep-21Sep-22Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

Buffer = Current Limit - Outstanding Balance

+ Offset Balance

41

46

51

53

57

60

60

Sep-19Sep-20Sep-21Sep-22Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

MORTGAGE DELINQUENCIES (%)MORTGAGE PORTFOLIO LVR
1,2

(% OF PORTFOLIO)

BUSINESS STRESSED EXPOSURES TO BUSINESS TCE

1

(%)UNSECURED CONSUMER DELINQUENCIES (%)

NEW ZEALAND CREDIT QUALITY

NEW ZEALAND CREDIT QUALITY

1 Chart may not add due to rounding. 2 LVR based on current exposure and property valuation at the latest credit event.

0.47

0.96

0.0

0.5

1.0

1.5

2.0

Jun-22Dec-22Jun-23Dec-23Jun-24

90+ day delinquencies30+ day delinquencies

52%

20%

20%

6%

3%

0<=6060<=7070<=8080<=9090+

0.1 0.1 0.1

0.2 0.2

0.4 0.3

0.3

0.3 0.5

2.0

2.1

2.2

2.1

2.2

2.4

2.5

2.5 2.5

2.9

Jun-23Sep-23Dec-23Mar-24Jun-24

ImpairedNon-performing, not impairedWatchlist & substandard

0.90

2.03

0.0

1.5

3.0

4.5

6.0

Jun-22Dec-22Jun-23Dec-23Jun-24

90+ day delinquencies30+day delinquencies

92% of mortgage portfolio has

an LVR less than 80%

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Increase driven by agriculture

TERM DEBT ISSUANCE AND MATURITY PROFILE
1,2

($BN)

FUNDING AND LIQUIDITY

FUNDING AND LIQUIDITY

1 Based on residual maturity and FX spot currency translation. Includes all debt issuance with contractual maturity greater than 13 months excluding US Commercial Paper and Yankee

Certificates of Deposit. Contractual maturity date for Additional Tier 1 and callable Tier 2 instruments is the first scheduled conversion date or call date for the purposes of this disclosure. Any early

redemption would be subject to prior written approval from APRA, which may or may not be provided. Maturities exclude securitisation amortisation. 2 Year to date is 1 October 2023 to 12 July

2024. 3 Chart may not add due to rounding.

18

12

34

31

35

43

35

36

7

33

34

27

29

21

28

FY19FY20FY21FY22FY23FY24FY24FY25FY26FY27FY28FY29>FY29

Funding for Lending

Programme (NZ)

Term Funding

Facility (Aus)

Tier 2 capital

Additional Tier 1

capital

Covered bond

Senior/Securitisation

IssuanceMaturities

59

14

5

15

7

Senior Bonds

Covered Bonds

Additional Tier

1 Capital

Tier 2 Capital

Securitisation

138

134

132

130

Jun-23Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

KEY FUNDING AND LIQUIDITY MEASURES

Liquidity coverage ratio (LCR) (%)

Quarterly average

118

115

114

113

Jun-23Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

Net stable funding ratio (NSFR) (%)

84.1

82.9

82.9

83.3

Jun-23Sep-23Mar-24Jun-24

Customer deposits to net loans ratio (D2L)

(%)

•Quarterly LCR movement reflects the impact of

Term Funding Facility maturities, with lower

average net cash outflows more than offset by a

reduction in high-quality liquid assets

•Lower NSFR reflects growth in lending and

increases in required stable funding for

mortgages previously used as collateral for

Term Funding Facility draw-downs

•Increase in D2L ratio due to rate of growth in

deposits slightly ahead of loan growth

TERM DEBT ISSUANCE BY PROGRAM

YEAR TO DATE

2,3

(%)

$36bn

YTD

YTD

remaining

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Table may not add due to rounding
APPENDIX 1: FINANCIAL SUMMARY

APPENDIX

Excluding Notable Items

$b3Q24

% movement

3Q24 - 1H24 qtr average3Q24

% movement

3Q24 - 1H24 qtr average

Net interest income4.724.7-

Non-interest income0.7(4)0.7(4)

Net operating income5.415.4-

Operating expenses(2.7)2(2.7)2

Pre-provision profit2.612.7(2)

Impairment charges(0.1)(58)(0.1)(58)

Tax and non-controlling interests (NCI)(0.8)4(0.8)2

Net profit after tax1.861.82

Return on equity (ROE)10.0%69bps10.1%36bps

Return on tangible equity (ROTE)11.3%79bps11.4%42bps

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Table may not add due to rounding
APPENDIX 2: NET PROFIT

APPENDIX

Excluding Notable Items

$b1Q242Q24

1H24 qtr

average3Q241Q242Q24

1H24 qtr

average3Q24

Net interest income4.34.84.64.74.74.74.74.7

Non-interest income0.70.70.70.70.80.70.70.7

Net operating income5.05.55.35.45.45.45.45.4

Operating expenses(2.7)(2.7)(2.7)(2.7)(2.7)(2.7)(2.7)(2.7)

Pre-provision profit2.42.82.62.62.72.72.72.7

Impairment charges(0.2)(0.2)(0.2)(0.1)(0.2)(0.2)(0.2)(0.1)

Tax and NCI(0.7)(0.8)(0.7)(0.8)(0.8)(0.8)(0.8)(0.8)

Net profit after tax1.51.81.71.81.81.71.81.8

ROE8.3%10.3%9.3%10.0%9.8%9.7%9.8%10.1%

ROTE9.4%11.6%10.5%11.3%11.0%11.0%11.0%11.4%

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